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Nothing changed at all

Posted: 2025-06-05 20:46
by SFoX
Hello,

Back on January 29, 2025, I already pointed out that the Luckfox Omni 3576 comes with an extremely outdated kernel [LINK], an obsolete operating system, an immutable root filesystem, and a hard bootloader lock. At the time, I was promised that work was being done to address these issues.
I put the device in storage to wait until you had patched it to a usable state.

That was five months ago. Unfortunately, I can't see that anything has changed. I still can't update the system (apt update && upgrade).
I still can't decide myself what the bootloader should load, because there's a hardcoded bootloader sitting on top of U-Boot (so I cannot install other ARM based Linux systems).

The image you provide is still Debian 12 and still the file from January 7, 2025 – which clearly shows that no development has happened at all.

That means this device is only suitable for tinkerers who have no expectations of actually interacting with the system. For companies, this is an absolute no-go device. Since it can't be updated, it leaves the system wide open to attackers. Using a device like this is basically begging to get hacked.

And the wiki say´es, it still requires Python 2 just to pull the dev kit. Which is comical.
And I still find no new DTS or DTSi files in it to compile a newer Kernel (or ANY Kernel that is not 6.1).

Ya, what a shame. Literally nothing has changed. Not one bit.
In my thread from January 29, I asked whether the project was already dead — because it had just hit the market, yet came with catastrophically outdated software.
Even though you assured me that the journey was just beginning, it turns out my instincts were right after all.
A stillbirth.

Re: Nothing changed at all

Posted: 2025-06-12 8:07
by Luckfox Taylor
First of all, the Bootloader and some U-Boot components are indeed proprietary and closed-source parts from Rockchip. We do not have the authority or capability to modify them. These limitations are determined by the chip vendor, primarily for security and protection purposes in the device’s boot process.

Secondly, regarding the kernel version you mentioned: the current system uses Linux 6.1.75, which, while not the latest release, is part of the official Long-Term Support (LTS) branch. It is still actively maintained and offers high stability and compatibility, especially suitable for industrial control and embedded system scenarios where reliability is a top priority. Many mainstream devices are still running the 6.1 LTS kernel series.

As for your concern about package updates, some essential packages are indeed version-locked during system build. This is to prevent instability caused by dependency mismatches or ABI changes. If needed, users can manually unlock them by modifying the apt configuration (e.g., using apt-mark unhold or adjusting the sources.list and pinning settings). There is no technical restriction preventing updates.

Regarding the firmware image, we have released updates in March and May 2025, including kernel improvements, driver fixes, and user-space optimizations. It’s possible that the link you referred to was outdated. We recommend checking the latest images on our [official Wiki or firmware download page].

We are also actively working with the chip vendor to gradually open up more low-level access and modernize the system environment. Your feedback and suggestions are greatly appreciated, and we welcome further discussions on how to improve the platform.

Re: Nothing changed at all

Posted: 2025-06-18 17:19
by SFoX
Hi, thanks a lot for the statement.
Regarding the topic of "firmware image":
Luckfox Taylor wrote: 2025-06-12 8:07 Regarding the firmware image, we have released updates in March and May 2025, including kernel improvements, driver fixes, and user-space optimizations. It’s possible that the link you referred to was outdated. We recommend checking the latest images on our [official Wiki or firmware download page].
So either I'm misunderstanding something, or I'm overlooking something here.
Because on your wiki page, which I always use [LINK] I can only find the link to Google Cloud under "2. Image Download". And there, the last upload is dated 31.10.2024. [See attached image]
Am I getting something wrong here?

Best regards.

Re: Nothing changed at all

Posted: 2025-06-19 7:39
by Luckfox Taylor
This indicates the last modification time of the folder itself. Updating the image file inside will not change the folder's timestamp. Please enter the directory until you see the .img file.
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